Well sure, people doing “bad” things” would “seem pretty foreign” to MM since MM is a moral relativist (and is convinced that “people believe [only] what feels good to them - and use their brains to justify it”), whereas Todd, as I recall, has indicated elsewhere that he’s not a moral relativist; although I never quite understood how he squared that with his atheism.

And I’m delighted that Todd and I “tend to agree” that “it doesn't seem that religion carries any special intrinsic negative social process with it.”