Dave,
I think that the thing about systemic approach that it gives something beyond gestalt approach limitation.
In Gestalt practice(inspite theory positions) clients often suffering from being exposed, openned up out of their defences and left out without any support- Be with it, Feel it etc. in pain alone, retraumatized (coming from own experience and my clients' complaines)
In addition gestalt position seemed to reffer to autonomic position of client- "Nobody ows anything to anybody"- which often traslates to client as "Everything is alwais my fault "
In Helligers work clients get support from genuine infinite source- family. And anybody's actions getting to make reason, and it gives groung for acceptence and forgiveness.

Hellinger's work- is a miracle. Something coming out from group appears to be revealed Truth. And in different approaches many people would think "It makes sene but it just one of theories your therapist trained at, will it work for me? who knows"

(excuse my English )

AF

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